Huge PVP Issue. Please REVERT PVP to as it was.

[Alienns]

Dear Turtle WoW team.
This is not me alone writing this post, many ppl from PVP agree to someone finally nned write this post.

We want You to Draw Attention that something is very wrong with PVP on Nordanaar realm. What i mean. As Alliance player we have huge issue like:

1. Most of time, Horde Players in 70-80 cases have more players in BG than Alliance...
2. Before 2 Years, Horde lose practically every PVP BG, so some of Devs in TW team changed code on Server side so "someone... somehow.." can have more players in BG which was not even possible in official Vanilla WoW. NEVER! how do i know? easy, got ~320.000 honor kills only in Vanilla and Rank 14. Check Here > https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en ... zak/paopao
3. Most of time horde have 1-3 even 6 players more in same BG, Maybe 70+ screenshots i have as proof can help.
4. Alliance have also sometimes more players in some BG, but that is one of like 15 times.
5. When Alliance capture flag in AB, NPC`s around that flag especially Mine that can not be targeted are still horde undead, not converted to humans as they should. So that also is bugged and that was NEVER happen in official WoW. I got hundreds of screenshots from that time 2005-2006 and can also proof that.
edit:
6. I forgot to add, many alliance leave asap when they see 2-3 players more and what is even worst in that case, Horde got MORE players in even when our player left ....
7. Sometimes we fight 10 minutes as 9 vs 11 and guess what, no one join on our side to fill 10 playhers in WSG even Horded have 11. Hello.. Of course everyone on Ally side is frustrated and no one want to play any more after that kind of games.

We just want to PVP be as it was before, not moded by someone who "think" that is better.
If you want i can post Screenshots like i said 70+ screenshot as proof.

We do not ask to nerf any class or anything, just limit players to default as it was before!
Thank you.

[Bigsmerf]

Okay, now tell us all the problems horde PvPers have so we can solve both side's problems.

[Alienns]

Okay, now tell us all the problems horde PvPers have so we can solve both side's problems.

If you have problems you will write it down already.

[Springboards]

its a bug, if they queue as group then it lets everyone in their group come in. Seems like more horde players are social and queue as group while alliance are lone wolves

[Mezzomixx]

[quote=Alienns post_id=100394 time=1724979687 user_id=599497]
Dear Turtle WoW team.
[b]This is not me alone writing this post, many ppl from PVP agree to someone finally nned write this post.[/b]

We want You to Draw Attention that something is very wrong with PVP on Nordanaar realm. What i mean. As Alliance player we have huge issue like:

1. Most of time, Horde Players in 70-80 cases have more players in BG than Alliance...
2. Before 2 Years, Horde lose practically every PVP BG, so some of Devs in TW team changed code on Server side so "someone... somehow.." can have more players in BG which was not even possible in official Vanilla WoW. NEVER! how do i know? easy, got ~320.000 honor kills only in Vanilla and Rank 14. Check Here > [url]https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en ... zak/paopao[/url]
3. Most of time horde have 1-3 even 6 players more in same BG, Maybe 70+ screenshots i have as proof can help.
4. Alliance have also sometimes more players in some BG, but that is one of like 15 times.
5. When Alliance capture flag in AB, NPC`s around that flag especially Mine that can not be targeted are still horde undead, not converted to humans as they should. So that also is bugged and that was NEVER happen in official WoW. I got hundreds of screenshots from that time 2005-2006 and can also proof that.
edit:
6. I forgot to add, many alliance leave asap when they see 2-3 players more and what is even worst in that case, Horde got MORE players in even when our player left ....
7. Sometimes we fight 10 minutes as 9 vs 11 and guess what, no one join on our side to fill 10 playhers in WSG even Horded have 11. Hello.. Of course everyone on Ally side is frustrated and no one want to play any more after that kind of games.

We just want to PVP be as it was before, not moded by someone who "think" that is better.
If you want i can post Screenshots like i said 70+ screenshot as proof.

We do not ask to nerf any class or anything, just limit players to default as it was before!
Thank you.
[/quote]

LoL . you're complaining about the fact that Horde have more Players but your OP Paladins oneshot every with 3.5k crit ....yeah

[Mezzomixx]

LoL. Sie beschweren sich darüber, dass die Horde mehr Spieler hat, aber Ihre OP-Paladine machen jeden Oneshot mit 3500 Crits ... ja

[Grizb37]

We had a game yesterday in WSG 14v9.... I mean why hasn't this bug been fixed in over a year... Only seems to have gotten worse

[Hardcorehygge]

As a Horde player, I can acknowledge that there are times when we have more players in a battleground than the Alliance, but as you've pointed out, the reverse also happens. But from my experience, both Horde and Alliance seem to win a similar number of battlegrounds overall. So far, the battleground experience on Turtle WoW has been a pleasure, especially compared to other private servers and even Classic. It's refreshing not to encounter premade groups in every match, particularly as someone who often plays solo. Overall its seem pretty balanced to me.

[Geojak]

Dear Turtle WoW team.
This is not me alone writing this post, many ppl from PVP agree to someone finally nned write this post.

We want You to Draw Attention that something is very wrong with PVP on Nordanaar realm. What i mean. As Alliance player we have huge issue like:

1. Most of time, Horde Players in 70-80 cases have more players in BG than Alliance...
2. Before 2 Years, Horde lose practically every PVP BG, so some of Devs in TW team changed code on Server side so "someone... somehow.." can have more players in BG which was not even possible in official Vanilla WoW. NEVER! how do i know? easy, got ~320.000 honor kills only in Vanilla and Rank 14. Check Here > https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en ... zak/paopao
3. Most of time horde have 1-3 even 6 players more in same BG, Maybe 70+ screenshots i have as proof can help.
4. Alliance have also sometimes more players in some BG, but that is one of like 15 times.
5. When Alliance capture flag in AB, NPC`s around that flag especially Mine that can not be targeted are still horde undead, not converted to humans as they should. So that also is bugged and that was NEVER happen in official WoW. I got hundreds of screenshots from that time 2005-2006 and can also proof that.
edit:
6. I forgot to add, many alliance leave asap when they see 2-3 players more and what is even worst in that case, Horde got MORE players in even when our player left ....
7. Sometimes we fight 10 minutes as 9 vs 11 and guess what, no one join on our side to fill 10 playhers in WSG even Horded have 11. Hello.. Of course everyone on Ally side is frustrated and no one want to play any more after that kind of games.

We just want to PVP be as it was before, not moded by someone who "think" that is better.
If you want i can post Screenshots like i said 70+ screenshot as proof.

We do not ask to nerf any class or anything, just limit players to default as it was before!
Thank you.

This bug was introduced after twow made changes to try fix the blood ring ghost queues almost two years ago. They never bothered to fix Thai bug even after multiple bug reports on the old githib tracker. This is a rly severe bug, which is frequent, obvious and impactful. Still no fix in 2 years. It's maddening.

And mezzomix who came here just to say ".... But paladins" absolute clowns

The bug about ab mines has also been reported on githib 2 years ago. Fixing bugs is seemingly not a priority, but it's also quite minor unlike the other bug

[Springboards]

LoL. Sie beschweren sich darüber, dass die Horde mehr Spieler hat, aber Ihre OP-Paladine machen jeden Oneshot mit 3500 Crits ... ja

Mate, go Allaince side Horde got much more t2.5/t3...there is a reason why Horde queues are 15-20 min while Allaince are instant. Also any class can hit 3k-4k burst once they get T2.5...warlock=seduce into sbolt/conflag combo with coil and sburn/dots , thats roughly 5k dmg right there. Shaman 1.5k LB into 1k shock thats 2.5k, mage shatters go into 2.5k+, spriests...horde is much more op with racials like Warstomp and hardiness but the real reason is just so many more are raid geared. i can count on my fingers how many atieshes alliance side has while horde is overflowing with them

[Bigsmerf]

Okay, now tell us all the problems horde PvPers have so we can solve both side's problems.

If you have problems you will write it down already.

I don't. Because I'm not a PvPer. Apparently you do PvP though, so you should know these things. Write 'em down yourself.

[Shockoladetwo]

Okay, now tell us all the problems horde PvPers have so we can solve both side's problems.

If you have problems you will write it down already.

I don't. Because I'm not a PvPer. Apparently you do PvP though, so you should know these things. Write 'em down yourself.

Question would then be why you comment in a PvP related threat if you don't pvp?
The Imbalancing or people ghost queueing still happens every day. Would also appreciate if some develoeprs digged into it to fix that.

[Bigsmerf]

If you have problems you will write it down already.

I don't. Because I'm not a PvPer. Apparently you do PvP though, so you should know these things. Write 'em down yourself.

Question would then be why you comment in a PvP related threat if you don't pvp?

This might as well be a rhetorical question. I can speak on whatever topic I wish, and that's that. I'm just asking for some horde sided PvP problems because Alienn's initial post seemed to have some pretty heavy bias.

[Elduro]

If the server was alliance sided in population, it would be a horde problem and someone would write about it. Sometimes I have seen this bug benefiting alliance, this bug should not be up for anyone.

[Alienns]

This was happen today.
It was equal on start, than after 10 min in the middle of fight, more horde start to pouring and they got 4 players more!?!? Even to the end we did not have our 15 player cap...




and Yesterday...



Guess he is proud how they win...

[Alienns]

Or this WSG before few days..



I got 50 screenshots if you want i can post and also have FOUR (4) where alliance have more players!