Rogues with shields

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Unangwata
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Rogues with shields

Post by Unangwata » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:26 pm

In the early stage of development of WoW rogue had ability to use small shield, a buckler.

It would be nice alternative to damage for more surivability.

How about add some bucklers for rogues, or enhance the ability and make them use any shield ?

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Sinrek » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm

No.
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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Roxanneflowers » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:02 pm

Sinrek wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm
No.
No (again).

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Unangwata » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:01 pm

Sinrek wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm
No.
I thought server likes removed features..

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Sinrek » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:22 am

Unangwata wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:01 pm
Sinrek wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm
No.
I thought server likes removed features..
Some features were removed for a reason. You've found one of'em.
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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Jezza » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:48 am

I like the idea of bucklers for rogues, could even pair it with Combat's Riposte talent to activate on block. Not sure if single-wield rogue is actually viable, plus there's the issue of reclassifying all bucklers as separate items (I'm just guessing, not sure how client changes work). Which would also mean adding the "Buckler" id to other class talents that use shields.

From an RP perspective I'd ultimately be for it, but it'd be quite a bit of work for one class.

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Unangwata » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:22 am

Sinrek wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:22 am
Unangwata wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:01 pm
Sinrek wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:57 pm
No.
I thought server likes removed features..
Some features were removed for a reason. You've found one of'em.
All features were removed for a reason. It's hard to tell which was valid or not.

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Kazgrim » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:11 pm

I like the idea but wonder how effective a rogue would be with shields. That being said, if they don't gain an unfair advantage, then I'd support!
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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Jezza » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:30 pm

Kazgrim wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:11 pm
I like the idea but wonder how effective a rogue would be with shields. That being said, if they don't gain an unfair advantage, then I'd support!
The idea of a buckler is great when the rogue is being attacked = reactive abilities while solo leveling, but when the mob focus is on the tank its just sub par damage while single wielding. We could make active abilities like a "Buckler Bash" (lighter shield smash) for damage compensation, but its still work implementing and balancing.

Again I'm down for it but idk if its worth the turtle teams energy now.

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Balake » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:57 pm

It might make rogues too situationally tanky. Weapons are swappable in combat, a rogue with a shield and evasion will be able to become very durable for a short period of time, both in PvE and PvP. They can then just swap back to their weapon and go back to being a top dps class.

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Kazgrim » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:08 pm

Adding shields to rogues is a few lines in server DB, so its not exactly hard to implement. It might just be too radical an idea though
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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Unangwata » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:53 pm

Kazgrim wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:08 pm
Adding shields to rogues is a few lines in server DB, so its not exactly hard to implement. It might just be too radical an idea though
With regular shield perhaps yeah, but buckler rogue is something that happens in fantasy genre.
I guess adding bucklers would take more work tho.

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Fizzeek » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:38 pm

My only concern here is losing a shield drop roll to a rogue :P

I'd be so mad! lol

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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Mephistopheles » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Bucklers should in no way be the same as shields, it’d require new items, I say no.
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Re: Rogues with shields

Post by Deadcrow » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:02 pm

A buckler is a small shield, mainly used for deflection rather than straight blocking. So It could be a cut down shield size wise and could give a bonus to parry chance.

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