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Seal of the Crusader is definitely terrible and I've made my own thoughts on it quite known: https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4177 However, using TBC/Wrath as a comparison to vanilla design philosophies is a mistake. There are a plethora of options that can be taken without dipp...

Kysok wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:01 pm

Holy strike crits you for 3722 holy damage.. thats all.

It's technically your fault for letting them get berserking at that point. Should have worked with your team to get berserking before them.

Low level enchanting mats already go to waste. Having more people level enchanting, not much of an issue. though i'd like to see more ways to level it. Spam enchanting your own gear always seemed weird and lame. Well, low level enchanting mats go to waste because the enchants suck so bad. 5 mana. 1...

Let bloodcraze stack like ignite does, and change the bloodthirst healing mechanic to heal for 50% of the damage done or something. This way warriors have a tactical choice of survival vs gimping other player's survival. Why though keep such an obviously broken mechanic that is the result of a mispl...

I have to disagree with you here. I'd argue that RF is like Defensive Stance extra threat, and that Paladins don't have the equivalent inbuilt extra threat abilities that Warrior has, because when it comes to raiding, regardless of which tank you have, you will always have Salvation up. Therefore W...

At 10+ levels it's still a maximum 38% hit chance. Melee/range hits are only .04% miss per difference in defence. A level 20 vs a 60 has only a 13% miss chance if attacking from behind or ranged. Though they do suffer from increased armor values, things like hamstring will hit reliably enough.

Paladin dungeon threat is just fine. I think the biggest point people have a hard time wrapping their heads around is that threat is like a pool. You only need enough to swim. Too little and you trudge extra slow, too much and you might not have enough in other pools when people jump in. A mistake I...

I think a cool playstyle for melee hunters is to allow fire traps in combat and have them on a separate and reduced cooldown from frost traps. From here, we could give them a spell coefficient. After that, wolf aspect could could allow unconditional mongoose bite and increase its damage equal to you...

Yes, this is true. Was never a fan. I'm pleased I'm not the only person who remembers using Seal of Fury. I also regarded Righteous Fury as a gigantic nerf to the class--by design, since that was the period where Blizzard had grown hostile towards paladins doing the tank job in general. Heck I like...

40% haste equals 40% more swings in a given period of time. The calculation is speed/1.4. simple. A 3.0 speed weapon gets a 2.14 swing speed. a 3.0 speed weapon swings 20 times in 60 seconds. The 2.14 speed swings 28 times in 60 seconds.

Where did you find this info? I've been looking to find what Seal of Fury did for a while. I lived it. You aren't going to find any database evidence of the phantom swings, but there were a few forum posts that talked about it. Wayback machine + allakhazam has the data for era validity, but it's al...

Seal of Fury was the original iteration of a tanking seal for paladin. It added 90 base TPS per swing along with 4 phantom swings to proc weapon procs and judgements. The judgement gave 337 base threat every time it was hit with a holy damage effect: SoR, holy shield, JoR, holy shock, consecration, ...

You flat out need taunt for some boss mechanics, so that is not an option, but outside of a raid you should rarely ever have to taunt in the first place. Until around patch 1.11.4, taunt was garbage. No, taunt is not required for boss mechanics. It helps, and by 1.12 it's a huge crutch, but mechani...

We dont need old JotC, it was trash, and made no sense with Crusader Strike. It is hilarious to me that the defence in getting rid of the old JotC was because CS existed... kek. It's really funny because the only reason the old JotC sucked was A) debuff limit and B) paladins/holy priests aren't all...

Quite largely agree. The new JotC is simply not a fun interaction with the game. The seal itself is so lack luster that switching to it feels like a warrior being forced to swap to defensive stance to press revenge for dps and then switching back. The new interaction is like swapping to defensive st...

Scaling compared to other classes abilities does matter. All class spells follow a broad logic on how they should scale. Instant cast direct damage spells such as shocks, fireblast, shadowburn andeven arcaneshot offer the same ~41% scaling with spellpower. The same is true for on hit enchants such ...

You would definitely use holy strike when using SotC. Holy strike adds bonus damage and a 40% scaling component compared to the 10% I recommend with the seal. The baseline threat reduction is to ensure it doesn't outperform the other seals in a general sense for tanking and give paladins a built in ...

The original post is in the paladin forums, but I was convinced that this is a better place for it: Seal of the Crusader is a seal that lives in the minds of players as one they would rather never have to touch. It's just that awful. Even Seal of Justice has some use in the eyes of the players. The ...

Geojak wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:06 pm

We celebrated too early.

Yes, yes we did.

+1

+1 Screw vanilla like. This is an custom server. Stop making changes just because that's how it works in classic/vanilla. Make changes for health of the game or fun. You don't nerf warriors with custom shit like you did warlock's demonic sacrifice respec exploit even though it was vanilla like. Stop...

I think realistically that it should just be a 40% melee haste seal and nothing else. 40% attack speed on a 2h mace is unironically a great tool and a decent DPS increase for physical geared paladins. THe extra ranks can be for the judgement effect but 40% attack speed would neither break nor make ...

Seal of the Crusader is a seal that lives in the minds of players as one they would rather never have to touch. It's just that awful. Even Seal of Justice has some use in the eyes of the players. The problems with the seal are quite frankly numerous. The largest is that although it provides 40% hast...

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The debuff limit was a technical limitation, not a balance one as stated by multiple original WoW devs.